NS Cliches: Rebooted

by **Hispida** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:27 pm

cliche: people attempting to make socialist nations without either
a. giving them a concrete philosophy
b. not understanding socialism
c. both

i would know since i'm guilty of all three

by **Yooper High Kingdom** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:33 pm

Hispida wrote:cliche: people attempting to make socialist nations without either
a. giving them a concrete philosophy
b. not understanding socialism
c. both

i would know since i'm guilty of all three

"Without not understanding socialism"

(jk I get what you mean)

by **Gandoor** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:46 pm

Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is. And when it does all the stuff, then that's communism.
- Carl Marks

by **The African Emirates** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:58 pm

Gandoor wrote:Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is. And when it does all the stuff, then that's communism.
- Carl Marks

Incorrect, socialism is when no iPhone or food

by **Free Ravensburg** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:00 pm

The African Emirates wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is. And when it does all the stuff, then that's communism.
- Carl Marks

Incorrect, socialism is when no iPhone or food

No, socialism (by the peoples definition) is when woke

by **Gandoor** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:04 pm

The African Emirates wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is. And when it does all the stuff, then that's communism.
- Carl Marks

Incorrect, socialism is when no iPhone or food

YUO CLAIM TO BE SOSHULIST YET U OWN SMARDFONE?????

HYPOCRITE!!!!

by **Hispida** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:07 pm

Gandoor wrote:
The African Emirates wrote:
Incorrect, socialism is when no iPhone or food

YUO CLAIM TO BE SOSHULIST YET U OWN SMARDFONE?????

HYPOCRITE!!!!

DEAR LIBERAL... YOU CLAIM TO LOVE SOCILISM...

BUT IPHONE VUVZELA 100 BILLION DEAD...!

by **New Audalusia** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:10 pm

Took me a good five minutes to get the joke, now you guys just have me questioning life.

by **UIJ** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:16 pm

Hispida wrote:cliche: people attempting to make socialist nations without either
a. giving them a concrete philosophy
b. not understanding socialism
c. both

i would know since i'm guilty of all three

tbf expecting people to have an in-depth knowledge of a type of politic or economic system on NS is asking a bit too much

by **Langenia** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:19 pm

Hispida wrote:cliche: people attempting to make socialist nations without either
a. giving them a concrete philosophy
b. not understanding socialism
c. both

i would know since i'm guilty of all three

I...yes. I'm afraid I've been guilty of that too.

by **Gandoor** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:25 pm

Confession: Back when I actually started posting on these forums (over two years after I made this nation) and began developing Gandoor's lore, I said that every single job paid the exact same wage because I was literally 14 years old at the time and my entire knowledge of communism amounted to 'hammer and sickle' and 'everyone is equal'. (It's also the reason why Gandoor has Russian has an official language because 'Hahaha communism = USSR = Russian'.)

by **Yooper High Kingdom** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:36 pm

Gandoor wrote:Confession: Back when I actually started posting on these forums (over two years after I made this nation) and began developing Gandoor's lore, I said that every single job paid the exact same wage because I was literally 14 years old at the time and my entire knowledge of communism amounted to 'hammer and sickle' and 'everyone is equal'. (It's also the reason why Gandoor has Russian has an official language because 'Hahaha communism = USSR = Russian'.)

For your crimes, you must be punished

I sentence you to 3 days in the Vaush Pit

by **Mexica Valley** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:39 pm

I don’t know if this is a cliche, but are neko (anime cat human hybrid thingy) nations a thing? They seem to be a thing in my region and I was wondering if that was more than a regional pattern.

by **The Emnian Realm** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:47 pm

Mexica Valley wrote:I don’t know if this is a cliche, but are neko (anime cat human hybrid thingy) nations a thing?

I feel like they were more common in the early 2010s (around the time of all the MLP nations as well if we dare to remember) but the only ones I can think of that are still about are Catsfern and Las Palmeras

by **Neo-Western East Korea** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:48 pm

catgirl nations are actually relatively uncommon from what I've seen, only remember 2 or 3 major ones

by **Valentine Z** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:51 pm

Gandoor wrote:Confession: Back when I actually started posting on these forums (over two years after I made this nation) and began developing Gandoor's lore, I said that every single job paid the exact same wage because I was literally 14 years old at the time and my entire knowledge of communism amounted to 'hammer and sickle' and 'everyone is equal'. (It's also the reason why Gandoor has Russian has an official language because 'Hahaha communism = USSR = Russian'.)

We have all been there, some more than others.

It's great to admit it and to be extremely honest, we all have had our blunders one way or another.

by **Neo-Western East Korea** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:08 pm

Gandoor wrote:Confession: Back when I actually started posting on these forums (over two years after I made this nation) and began developing Gandoor's lore, I said that every single job paid the exact same wage because I was literally 14 years old at the time and my entire knowledge of communism amounted to 'hammer and sickle' and 'everyone is equal'. (It's also the reason why Gandoor has Russian has an official language because 'Hahaha communism = USSR = Russian'.)

I had a supposedly anarchist group listed as wanting to create a state at one point
felt like a colossal dumbass when I realized

by **Hispida** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:17 pm

UIJ wrote:
Hispida wrote:cliche: people attempting to make socialist nations without either
a. giving them a concrete philosophy
b. not understanding socialism
c. both

i would know since i'm guilty of all three

tbf expecting people to have an in-depth knowledge of a type of politic or economic system on NS is asking a bit too much

man all im asking for is a baseline

by **UIJ** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:25 pm

Hispida wrote:
UIJ wrote:tbf expecting people to have an in-depth knowledge of a type of politic or economic system on NS is asking a bit too much

man all im asking for is a baseline

i skimmed over it on wikipedia is that enough

by **Hispida** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:27 pm

UIJ wrote:
Hispida wrote:man all im asking for is a baseline

i skimmed over it on wikipedia is that enough

unironically yes

by **UIJ** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:28 pm

Hispida wrote:
UIJ wrote:i skimmed over it on wikipedia is that enough

unironically yes

damn what a shame too bad i haven't done that

by **Gandoor** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:36 pm

Honestly reading the Wikipedia article for any political ideology probably gives you more knowledge than the average person.

by **Yooper High Kingdom** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:43 pm

Gandoor wrote:Honestly reading the Wikipedia article for any political ideology probably gives you more knowledge than the average person.

Reading the Wikipedia article for anything probably gives you more knowledge than the average person tbh

by **Dominioan** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:53 pm

What kind of nations do you see from people who apparently have no idea what communism is? I know the obvious "communism when no food and dictatorship" countries, but I sometimes see apparently communist nations ruled by a monarch, or having a massive dictatorial government that lets everyone do whatever they want, or social democratic/welfare capitalist nations called socialist for some reason.

by **Gandoor** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:01 pm

Dominioan wrote:What kind of nations do you see from people who apparently have no idea what communism is? I know the obvious "communism when no food and dictatorship" countries, but I sometimes see apparently communist nations ruled by a monarch, or having a massive dictatorial government that lets everyone do whatever they want, or social democratic/welfare capitalist nations called socialist for some reason.

You could argue Gandoor fits into the latter category but also not since I'm very explicit that this nation isn't socialist in practice (I always say that Gandoor is just a social democracy) but socialism is (officially) the ideological goal of the country.

So I dunno where that would fit.

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